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SSCAIT 2017 early results

How is the tournament going so far? Many games remain to be played, and bots have played different numbers, so all conclusions are tentative. But we can see some trends.

The top leaders at the moment by win rate are Bereaver 15-0, McRave 21-1, Tscmoo Random 17-1, Steamhammer 20-2, and KillAll at 25-3. Bereaver is a genuine candidate for a high finish, but most likely not #1. It has played relatively few games. McRave’s one loss is to Wuli. I think McRave is now the top candidate for #1 finisher. KillAll is the biggest surprise to me.

ICEbot at 13-2 is above expectations, but has also played few games. Iron has unexpectedly lost 3 games already and stands at 16-3. I won’t be surprised if its standing rises after more games. Killerbot by Marian Devecka is at 18-3 and can be expected to finish high. Microwave at 11-3 has a higher rate of losses than I expected. I may have overestimated it, as its author MicroDK said, but it hasn’t played many games yet. Microwave does have a win over Iron thanks to wall-busting skills.

CherryPi at 17-5 may be the bot in the tournament with the most smarts. Sometimes its play looks crisp and precise, with accurate reactions. But CherryPi is also immature, as you can guess from its slightly higher rate of losses. With less experience on SSCAIT, it is not ready for everything. It collapsed in the face of the cannon contain of Juno by Yuanheng Zhu, which the strongest bots all defeat easily. (Juno, I learned, builds a cannon contain not only at its enemy’s natural, but at every enemy expansion it finds. I hadn’t seen that before, though I’ve watched many Juno games from AIIDE.) Other CherryPi losses are to AIlien and to Steamhammer in strategically similar ZvZ games: CherryPi undertook a strategy of a rush-safe opening followed by attempted zergling domination (similar in idea to the ZvZ plan of Killerbot by Marian Devecka but with a less thoroughgoing execution), while its opponents chose less-safe hatchery first openings that in fact let them win the zergling war. Trying to win without risk is risky.

CherryPi showed up with a new version not long before the tournament. It reportedly did not show its strongest builds at first: If true, I take that to be a sign of lacking confidence. If you believe that your team, with its funding and top experts, has produced a better bot than all others, then you should also believe that others will be unable to catch up or to exploit its weaknesses, certainly not in a short time. I get the impression that the CherryPi team understands that their bot is not yet solid and mature.

Hannes Bredberg at 14-5 is impressing me as much improved. It used to scatter its marines to scout then gather them to attack, which was cool but not effective. Now it keeps its marines in formation and punches much harder.

Steamhammer is scoring at the level I predicted; it is now at #4 when I gave it places 4 through 8. The win over XIMP reassures me that I probably fixed the weakness that caused the recent test version to lose to XIMP. One point that worries me is that its losses are to MegaBot2017 which is much lower ranked, and to Neo Edmund Zerg which it should beat nearly 100% of the time. Except for CherryPi and XIMP, Steamhammer has not yet played most of its strongest opposition.

As always, the results will tell us. Now I have to hurry up and post this before the results change on me!

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LetaBot on :

Bereaver lost to a 4 pool on a 4 player map. It will definitely get top 16, but I think McRave will take the #1 spot.

McRave on :

I think CherryPi has the best shot this tournament if they don't get knocked out from a lower tier bot, they're very strong versus the top bots right now.

MicroDK on :

Microwave's loss to Carsten Nielsen is a result of adding more openings in ZvP, that it has not played against him because Microwave often get matches against top bots. I could have added learning data that it will loose with those openings, but I totally forgot that... so I expect more build order losses like that. The 2nd loss to Marian was expected and the 3rd loss to ForceBot was also a build order loss where it played a new opening and where I could have added learning data so it would not play this opening since I know there are other openings that would do better... but when Microwave plays bots it has played a lot of games against lately it will do much better. ;)

MicroDK on :

I expect Steamhammer to loose more games, since it has not met any of the best bots yet... The samw goes for Bereaver. ;)
You also forgot Microwavs's win vs Martin Rooijackers. :)

Xilmi on :

CherryPi's loss against AILien clearly looked like a bug to me.
It tried to focus down the expansion-hatchery while ignoring a sunken and AILiens Zerglings. Thus it lost all of it's lings for no advantage whatsoever as the hatchery survived. After that it simply was too far behind to come back.

Had CherryPi attacked the defenses first, as it should, it could easily have won.

I suspect that quite a few of it's other losses also result from sloppy target-selection.

Jay Scott on :

For zerglings, CherryPi’s target selection seems very close to “hit whatever is closest.” I see it occasionally switch to a worker that is slightly farther away, but that is the only exception I have noticed. I’m astonished at how primitive it looks.

Jay Scott on :

I should add, my first impression of CherryPi is holding up so far. Some of its skills, like storm dodging, are in a higher class than other bots. Other skills are not all there yet, including basic skills like zergling micro. It’s promising but not mature yet.

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