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Legionnaire’s analysis of Sparkle and Transistor

The planned post about strategy abstraction is delayed by a power outage at my house. Here’s a brief filler.

TeamLiquid has a post with analysis of new ASL maps Sparkle and Transistor by Australian protoss Legionnaire. Without drawing any strong conclusions about overall balance, Legionnaire points out how map features will affect play.

Current bots are poor at adapting to map features. More than that, it is beyond the state of the art for any AI system to adapt to maps with as few games as humans need. Humans reason out how map features affect play, and with experience they sharpen their reasoning. Machines, so far, mainly collect statistics about the course of events, and they need a vastly larger number of games to zero in on good strategy. Of course they may be able to play those many games faster, but we don’t know how to make a system that can combine reasoning with empirical learning like a human. I’m interested in Legionnaire’s expert analysis as an example that may offer clues.

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MicroDK on :

The new maps Sparkle and Transistor will be used in the forthcoming Afreeca Starleague Season 5 tournament: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-tournaments/531659-asl5-ro24-groups-revealed-dates-3-11-13-18-20-25-27

Antiga / Iruian on :

It's been talked about before but I think the bots can get idk 60-70%? imo of the critical stuff by flagging just a limited list of critical features. For example: 1) High ground or low ground main 2)main ramp width 3) rush distance 4) natural width 5) A flag for island map 6) A flag for 256 x 256 maps or 8 player maps (like Hunters or other such large maps). Really the rest of the stuff is so specialized, that I'm not sure it's worth working on in bot land yet. Someday sure, but for now just tracking those values and trying to use them in the future I think is the right track to be on.

Jay Scott on :

Yes, I remember and I intend to get around to it. Island maps require so many new skills that it is not time to worry about them yet. :-/

MicroDK on :

Youtube cast with english commentary (Artosis & Tasteless): https://youtu.be/XPwjK7WMs7c
AfreecaTV cast with english commentary: http://afreecatv.com/aslenglish

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