why is SSCAIT replaying tournament matches?
Why is the SSCAIT tournament re-running so many games in the elimination phase? There may be discussion of this on Facebook or somewhere, but I haven’t seen it. (I don’t use Facebook at all, because I don’t want to support their world domination plans. It would interfere with my world domination plans.)
I keep seeing games come up that are clearly tournament matches—then, later, the same matchups appear again. It looks exactly as though tournament matches are being replayed. Which games will be declared official?
They did the same thing on a smaller scale last year, and it caused some controversy. See the comments to the post Steamhammer vs LetaBot, SSCAIT round of 16 from last January. Last year it affected Steamhammer, and yet it didn’t bother me at all, partly because I saw the single elimination bracket more as entertainment than as a test of strength. There are legitimate administrative reasons to replay games. This year it doesn’t affect Steamhammer (games have been replayed, but with the same predictable results), but it bothers me more. There is an effort to make this phase of the tournament more rigorous, and replaying games undercuts that. When a learning bot is paired against a non-learning bot, such as CherryPi versus Iron, having more games against the opponent gives an advantage to the learning bot.
I doubt there’s favoritism behind the scenes, but how can I know? This comes up in politics all the time: It is not enough to avoid impropriety. If you want to be trusted then you also have to avoid the appearance of impropriety.
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McRave on :
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The thing that excites me the most about SSCAIT is seeing the constant progress you guys make, and as long everything is in lockdown for the tournament, we don't really get that.
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The answer is simple - good old incompetence on my part, similarly to last year :) The bracket games are scheduled by a rarely used script that also collects the replays and reports the results. And you wouldn't believe how stupid that thing is. It's quite easy to overwrite the collected replays/results with something else by accident. Fortunately, it doesn't change the results this time, so don't worry about it.
This is (hopefully) the last year when we run elimination bracket this way.
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There was also a question about when we'll open the submission system again. You're absolutely right - we are just quite busy these days, since SSCAIT is just one of many things on our plates. We don't prolong this on purpose and we'll open the submissions once we have all the replays. We're not planning to wait until the streams are finished. Soon.
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LetaBot on :
Hi. The answer is simple - good old incompetence on my part, similarly to last year :) The bracket games are scheduled by a rarely used script that also collects the replays and reports the results. And you wouldn't believe how stupid that thing is. It's quite easy to overwrite the collected replays/results with something else by accident. Fortunately, it doesn't change the results this time, so don't worry about it.
This is (hopefully) the last year when we run elimination bracket this way.