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new bot ZNZZBot

New protoss ZNZZBot was uploaded to SSCAIT today. It has no apparent connection with ZZZKBot. Quick analysis shows that it is descended from Locutus, but its binary is twice the size of the current Locutus because ZNZZBot is still linked against the BWTA terrain library. I conclude that ZNZZBot was forked from an earlier Locutus, or from an earlier descendent of Locutus.

The bot’s author is given on SSCAIT as “znzz” and in its config file as “zzy”. I’m not sure whether that indicates an attachment to zealots, or fitful sleep.

In its first 5 games, all it has played so far on SSCAIT and BASIL, ZNZZBot scored a win over Krasi0 with the Locutus dragoon runby strategy, but also a loss against the much weaker opponent ICEbot where protoss showed poor macro and poor decisions. I glanced over a couple new openings defined in the config file, and found them a bit odd, perhaps not expertly designed.

That’s all I know so far. I expect we’ll find out more with time.

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MarcoDBAA on :

krasi0 was also reenabled there, nice.

SSCAIT ladder should have its own ELO rating again btw, also because BASIL partly uses different maps.

Dan on :

BASIL uses the same maps except for the bots that register for the extended map pool. There's not a lot that have.

MarcoDBAA on :

"For BASIL that means:

1.If the 2 scheduled bots support a new map pool, one of its maps will be chosen
2.Otherwise, a SSCAIT map will be selected"

But this means, that these 2 bots compete vs each other on mostly (both map pools have Fighting Spirit for example) different maps on SSCAIT and BASIL, if both bots registered for it.

I also think, that it would make more sense to add the new maps to the former map pool, not completely replacing it. Would not invalidate ELO ratings as much too.

Jay Scott on :

Examining the effect of the extra maps on BASIL is on my list... but not for the near future.

krasi0 on :

It's kinda to be expected that my bot may lose a couple of games against a new opponent during the opening learning exploration phase. That said, my records are 3-0 against ZNZZBot on BASIL so nothing to worry about :)

Re, the additional maps on BASIL, I don't think that they are used very often so don't have a meaningful effect on the ELO ratings.. As expected, very few bots have opted-in for those maps.

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